Authorities said the 3-month-old died either of suffocation or of exposure while lying on his mother's stomach. you dont want to fall off and hurt your oversized ego. It then makes light of the fact that the car in which the (incriminating) hairs were found was absent of any blood. Their bodies were found nearly four months later. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. When police traveled to North Carolina to interview Patricia about the murders of Joann and Alex, she said that on the day of the homicides, she had visited a feed store, a tanning salon, and a country music club. The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. She returned to North Carolina in 1991. Any true crime fan should know the crazy history of these magic boxes. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). He said his heart drops a couple of feet every time it rings. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. I thought the same. Did you personally attend the trial? You can PM me please, this way you can update your article with the correct information. Nobody said bodies were intact. Despite his detention, he continues to enjoy the support of his millions of online followers. The person who killed Joann is currently serving a life sentence because 10 months after Joann and Alex died, he killed another woman (who bore a striking resemblance to Joann) and her baby. How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. Cop defends accused. 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Discuss and express opinion; stop short of asserting that those of the other view (that of judge and jury, at least) are ignorant of facts and wrong, and youre right, because by definition its reasonable for lay people to accept the jury verdict. Theres something very important to this case that needs to be mentioned more than anything else THE GUN. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! Myers knew little about Rorrer's troubles. He had an attractive new wife and beautiful baby boy. Rest in peace Joann and Alex. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. Counsel for Patricia Rorrer, 52, argued in Lehigh County Court that investigators mishandled DNA evidence, WFMZ-TV 69 reports. Why not question some of this evidence? (even though hes married and has a baby) Who does that?!! Clifford Freeman, were you a juror? Why bother with this site, which isnt for professional criminalists/forensic scientists, if youre going to get so tetchy and rude? Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. The charges: two counts of kidnapping and two counts of murder. Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. Follow him on Twitter @KurtBresswein. Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. Well ask you to confirm this for your first post to Facebook. I thought the justice system in my state and the people were narrow-minded and corrupt. He wanted to move to Colorado and she was against it.. She will be taken to Pennsylvania today to face trial. A two-year investigation results in the arrest of a Linwood woman. A Patent Pending People Search Process. Clifford Freeman, since you are already at the top of the list of deluded people not much room left for anyone with an oversized ego such as you apparently have!! Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. Thats my life.. I saw lots of her defenders saying that he got the hairs from a hairbrush of hers that he had somehow saved, which I thought was absolutely ridiculous. What evidence is there she actually left the state? Oh, and she was so obsessed with him that she started dating and found herself a boyfriend that was not only younger, but much more attractive than Andy? Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? To do this we will link your MailOnline account with your Facebook account. Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. She got 12 months of probation for shoplifting at a Walmart in Lexington, North Carolina. Your somewhat convoluted explanation of discuss and express opinion, seems to ramble on and on without any logic or reason. Under supervision of a doctor, 39 hair specimens were removed, recorded and logged. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. Find lehighvalleylive.com on Facebook. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. Forensic Files didnt mention it, but the hairs were actually brown at the top and the rest dyed blond, according to the show Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction. Andrew F Katrinak was born on month day 1882, at birth place. ``Her lawyer said anything we say could be used against her,' Chambers said late Tuesday night. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Let me ask youWhy do most of those who post adverse and hateful comments feel the need to? Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. Its sad that some people just cant move on and continue to feel that what they want is going to be THEIRS regardless. Find 4 people named Andrew Katrinak along with free Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok profiles on PeekYou - true people search. Which Patricia did not, so who is the real killer? Youre clutching at straws Im afraid. Those bodies would have been manipulated by something around there. Patricia Rorrer has been portrayed as a bully, petty thief, neglectful horse owner, and heartless killer or a sweet, caring friend railroaded by authorities desperate to solve a double-murder case that snagged worldwide interest. It makes me sick. "His wish is to attend a prearranged consultation in Dubai . She should have received the death penalty imo. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. How so? Andrew J Katrinak, 68. Joann was fun, likable, beautiful, always happy, said her sister-in-law Cindy Wiard. ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. DNA tests showed that strands of hair at the crime scene and in Joann Katrinak's car matched Rorrer's hair. Do you realize that Patricia was only found and arrested more than six months after the murder? The FBI even included a written report to that effect. Conflicting versions. Nope. Or the fact the one of those officers heard her make this statement at the time of her arrest and not the other. And NOBODY saw her at all? Username. Prince Andrew has offered to manage some of the prestigious Royal estates as part of his negotiations to leave his Royal mansion, Royal insiders have claimed that the King said 'there is no chance' of Andrew being allowed to manage the Royal estates, The Duke of York had offered to take over the management of Balmoral Castle - his late mother's beloved summer residence. The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. I noticed quite a few errors myself. Lieutenant Christopher Coble and Sergeant Suzanne Pearson would later testify that Patricia cried and apologized to 18-month-old Nicole, telling the baby, Im sorry for doing this to you and lamenting to the officers that she would never see little Nicole again. Its never been made clear. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. All this talk about hairs and other DNA just seems to keep deflecting away from the gun itself. Joanns first husband, New Jersey construction worker Michael Jack, who had reportedly abused her during their marriage, also had a solid alibi. On closer inspection, he saw it was the body of a woman. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. Look into it. Mr Steve J Veronica Barbara Katrinak. The state police dropped him as a suspect. Anyone who thinks this psycho isnt guilty needs to take off their tin hat. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. Combination locks. Insiders said the 63-year-old even offered to be in charge of running some of the Royal Family's much-loved estates, including Queen Elizabeth's beloved summer residence,Balmoral Castle in Aberdeenshire. And I can back up that claim by the fact I have read, watched and listened to all there is to know about this case. Rorrer was convicted at trial in March 1998 of kidnapping Joann Katrinak, 26, and her 3-month-old son, Alex, on Dec. 15, 1994, from their Catasauqua home, shooting Katrinak in the face, and leaving her and the child in the woods in Heidelberg Township. Davidson County sheriff's deputies searched Rorrer's house in Linwood and volunteered to keep an eye on her after hours. I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. Re Sells, the problem viz some serial killers is in exaggerating the number as a badge of honour. 5 years prior to all this happening! Martin Domin Editor, Mirror Fighting. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. However, Romanian officials have refused the request, saying he can be attended to in Romania. I am reliably informed they took SIX hours, not TWO as stated in my comment. Youll have to make do with what you see here. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? Above, we have another whos totally clueless, has little or no knowledge of this case, but is happy to display his/her ignorance with a rant based on limited knowledge learned from biased documentaries who thinks that by using offensive and insulting language itll influence those who support Rorrer into changing their opinions. Prosecution leader McIntyre, when interviewed, laughingly dismissed him as a nut in an effort to trivialise Traupmans input. This FBI report, of the hairs being unable to yield a DNA result because of the absent root material, was never revealed to Rorrers defence. . Beautifully said Cliff! It was just assumed to be crib death. DNA tests proved the blonde hairs were hers. You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. Andrew Tate 's legal team has claimed he has a tumour as the detained influencer faces another month in a Romanian prison. Your comment could not be farther than the truth! There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. An intensive search was launched, and family members distributed hundreds of missing-person flyers around Pennsylvania. Let me simplify this for you in religion, one is taught there is a God. New state, new man. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. During Patricias hours-long turn in the witness chair, Michael McIntyre grilled her relentlessly. Andrew lived at address. Re Routier, the claim that she inflicted a potentially fatal injury on herself by no means indicates another perp: she could have inflicted it in ignorance, as a suicide attempt, or in a semi-psychotic state. One of the hairs had magically developed root material to enable that. Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps. They are total bs. After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. She took out the woman who replaced her. By. Check Background Get Contact Info This Is Me - Edit Reputation & Background Police say Rorrer put a .22-caliber bullet in the mother's head, strangled the baby and placed him in the dead mother's arms. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. Lived In Drake CO . I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. Had there been a switch? The entrance to the Lehigh County Courthouse at 455 Hamilton St. in Allentown is seen in November 2011. Finally, another irony you fail to appreciate: you claim theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. That woman has no soul. The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. Too bad she got off with just a life sentence. Neighbors saw police cars in her driveway and acquaintances heard rumors about her previous boyfriends.The intrigue peaked Tuesday at 5:50 a.m., when deputies and Pennsylvania State Police surprised and arrested Rorrer, 33, at home. Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. There are those on this very site who express their disappointment she was not executed. She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. They were there in the winter months in which the bodies would have been frozen most of the time. Thank you Kerry. Her daughter, Andrea Bruner, 14, baby-sat for Rorrer's baby daughter last fall. ``People who work with horses, they love 'em, rub 'em, pet 'em, and at the same time they can be firm with 'em, jerk their bits if they need to,' Hege said. His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. Andy did end up moving to Colorado with her and the last time I checked, they were still together. Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. Walmart woe. From my point of view this is an extremely similar case, with less class and style, and without the luxurious details that Interpols case had, such as the involvement of an extremely expensive Alfa Romeo car, and a revolver bought at a lush auction in Paris, which had belonged to a duke before the incident.